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Mary Lee Brady, Ph.D.

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Charles Kyle, born 1840

Good Morning,

Thank you for the history lesson and the information. Iím not a writer, just a stay at home housewife, who is obsessed with ancestry.com.

Iím a bit stunned, to think I would have ancestors that were in the Klan, I guess  I live in a shell, it would have not occurred to me that it could be plausible.  I had no idea the Klan started in 1867 in Tennessee, both sides of my motherís family are from Tennessee (most came here to Texas) I was not raised to even think about the Klan.

I looked at my motherís notes again, I canít find any other thing to explain where she got the line ďCharlie Kyle killed at Nash houseĒ, she was killed in a car accident 4 years ago, so I canít ask. But since itís not likely to be your Kyle, who knows? I wish I had known my mother was also so obsessed with family history, I had no idea she had so many boxes of records to go through. I didnít have that much interest until now.

I have enjoyed looking at and reading on your web site, I love old photos.  I love history, the down side is you have to take the bad with the good and yes hopefully we will (and should) learn from the past.

Thank you so much,

Becky Plumlee

 From: robert m atkins [mailto:bradyenterpriseassociationinc@verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:46 AM
To: 'Becky Plumlee'
Subject: RE: looking for Charlie Kyle

It has occurred to me that another thought to keep firmly in mind is the after-math of wars anywhere are about near continuous movements of combatants.  Young men at war, such as your ancestors and my own did not settle down in one place when their fighting officially ended.   In fact, many women who loved or otherwise married men before, during and after the war must have suffered severe emotional pains about the aftermath.

Wars affect follow-on generations and  even when the fighting has stopped the attitudes and behaviors of many men and women will continue the conflicting values.  In your case, the possibilities are a man driven by his own experiences too unpleasant to talk about and in my case of Charles Kyle a man who moved from place to place in search of experiences he likely never divulged to his two wives and offspring in Salem, Virginia. 

Years ago during my tours in France, Germany and the Benelux countries, I had an opportunity to interview and listen to offspring of men who had fought and died in World War II, and even a fellow American soldier who had been born in a Japanese prisoner of war camp after his Dutch father had been killed.  The sheer tragedy of the war is that it left behind so many bad memories in so many offspring and other family members who had no role in it.  The good news is that too was overcome by our faith to begin anew making a better world, nations and communities. To that extent, my interest  is documenting bad news such as polygamy by Great-grandfather Charles Kyle, so that readers like my nieces and nephews will understand the good news of  situations wherein a man is joined as one with his one and only spouse and offspring.   

I thought to send you this in case you are a writer or interested in publishing.

Best Regards,

Bob Atkins

From: Becky Plumlee [mailto:rplumlee@embarqmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 8:00 AM
To: bradyenterpriseassociationinc@verizon.net
Subject: RE: looking for Charlie Kyle

Thanks so much for your reply.

Iím just grasping at straws.

We have almost no info on my 2nd great grandfather, Thomas Michael Nash. He came to Texas in the 1870ís and would not talk about family or Tennessee at all. Family legend says he killed a black man for his horse, I had thought maybe he changed his name if he was somewhat hiding, but the story goes on to tell that he received notice from an attorney around 1902 about an inheritance but refused to go back to Tennessee so the name thing, Iím not sure. No one in the family knows who his parents or siblings are. The family story also says Thomasís family owned several business in Nashville, I have tried goggling that, but no luck.

My mother passed away 4 years ago, she had researched family records the hard way by writing to anyone, any place that might could help, she traveled to court houses and libraries here in Texas and had handwritten all her work. I have everything she had, and going through all her notes, I had found the note that said ďCharlie Kyle killed in Nash houseĒ, I donít know where she got that info, but in goggling Charlie Kyle Tennessee I had found your family. I just thought maybe someone might know something, so I guess that heís a different Charlie Kyle, is it possible that he may have been an uncle or nephew to your Charles Kyle? Iím sad to say that most of my early ancestors owned slaves and the thought had occurred that maybe my great grandfather had killed a former slave of his family or in the 1870ís maybe this Charlie Kyle worked for his family.

Should I come across anything else in her notes, Iíll let you know.

Good luck on your search and again thank you,

Becky Plumlee

From: Brady Enterprise Association, Inc. [mailto:bradyenterpriseassociationinc@verizon.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 9:28 PM
To: 'Becky Plumlee'
Subject: RE: looking for Charlie Kyle

As a followup to my last message, I contacted other family members to try and learn what they knew about Charles Kyle and all seemed to know little more than his name.  I also checked and determined for certain there was only one Charles Kyle in U.S. Colored Troops during Civil War, and he joined and served in the Tennessee area.  My understanding was that he worked for the railroads, maybe Norfolk and Western.

I am curious to know if he was really alive and living in Salem Virginia at time of the 1880 census which indicate he was a polygamist and head of household in two different families, Ö one being that of my great grand-mother Adaline Frog Kyle. 

If he was killed in Tennessee during time  period you indicated, then my grandmother Julia Kyle born in 1878 could not have been his daughter. Any added info from you would be very welcome.

Best Regards,

Bob Atkins

From: Becky Plumlee [mailto:rplumlee@embarqmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 1:04 PM
To: bradyenterpriseassociationinc@verizon.net
Subject: looking for Charlie Kyle

 I have been searching for my 2nd great grandfather named Thomas Michael Nash who was born in about 1846 in Nashville, TN. We have no luck in finding his parents.

Family legend has it that he killed a black man and stole his horse, this would have been in about 1868 Ė 1871. He fled to Texas and would not discuss his family in Tennessee. Or would not go back to Tennessee.

In my late mothers notes, where she had handwritten census records, she has note that says ďCharlie Kyle killed in Nash houseĒ. I have been goggling Charlie Kyle and I keep coming into your web site.

Do you possibly know of a African American named Charlie Kyle that was murdered for his horse in the 1860ís Ė 1870ís?

Thanks so much,

Becky Plumlee

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